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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby God-Prank » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:52 pm

BaldySlaphead wrote:Well, I certainly think we can all agree that Daniel has expertly showed us quite how authoritative the Bible is when it comes to the issue of slavery.

:shock:


You can see the cruel slavery of the world was illegal in Israel.
It was more like indentured servitude, or even adoption in some cases.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby zilch » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:36 pm

God-Prank wrote:
BaldySlaphead wrote:Well, I certainly think we can all agree that Daniel has expertly showed us quite how authoritative the Bible is when it comes to the issue of slavery.

:shock:


You can see the cruel slavery of the world was illegal in Israel.
It was more like indentured servitude, or even adoption in some cases.

It was only like indentured servitude if you were a Hebrew slave. If you were a foreign slave it was plain ol' chattel slavery, and your children were also property of your master. I don't doubt that the strictures against beating your slaves to death too fast were an improvement for many. But we can do better than that nowadays, and abolish slavery altogether, which was not done in the Bible.

And sexism? Women should not talk in church and should be subject to their husbands. Sounds pretty sexist to me. Again, the Bible is simply outmoded.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby God-Prank » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:12 pm

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It was only like indentured servitude if you were a Hebrew slave. If you were a foreign slave it was plain ol' chattel slavery, and your children were also property of your master. I don't doubt that the strictures against beating your slaves to death too fast were an improvement for many. But we can do better than that nowadays, and abolish slavery altogether, which was not done in the Bible.

And sexism? Women should not talk in church and should be subject to their husbands. Sounds pretty sexist to me. Again, the Bible is simply outmoded.[/quote]

No, women should be "sex workers" and porn stars butchering their unborn children?
Men are commanded to be servants to their wives, even as Christ came to serve the church, even unto giving his life for her.
So in that way, women are elevated above men.

Even a non Hebrew slave would receive training in a trade, in some cases even an inheritance from childless families, etc.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby BaldySlaphead » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:13 pm

Thank you, massa, yousa Christians so good to us poor, dumb Gibeonites... Yousa more an we deserve. We so grateful.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby God-Prank » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:49 pm

BaldySlaphead wrote:Thank you, massa, yousa Christians so good to us poor, dumb Gibeonites... Yousa more an we deserve. We so grateful.


Didn't know that the Christians ever met a Gibeonite.

The first hit is free, sucka.
I suppose you prefer the cruel slavery of drug addiction?
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby zilch » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:52 pm

God-Prank wrote:I suppose you prefer the cruel slavery of drug addiction?

I do. At least drug addiction is usually voluntary. Chattel slavery is not voluntary.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby God-Prank » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:11 pm

zilch wrote:
God-Prank wrote:I suppose you prefer the cruel slavery of drug addiction?

I do. At least drug addiction is usually voluntary. Chattel slavery is not voluntary.


Most addicts are born in they're early teens, even earlier nowadays.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby BaldySlaphead » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:09 pm

God-Prank wrote:
BaldySlaphead wrote:Thank you, massa, yousa Christians so good to us poor, dumb Gibeonites... Yousa more an we deserve. We so grateful.


Didn't know that the Christians ever met a Gibeonite.

The first hit is free, sucka.
I suppose you prefer the cruel slavery of drug addiction?


Yes, you're quite right; it was God himself that cursed the Gibeonites to perpetual slavery. Funny word to use, 'cursed', considering what fun you seem to want us to believe slavery is.

As for drug addiction, I wasn't aware the choice was so binary. I choose neither, thanks.
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby God-Prank » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:53 pm

BaldySlaphead wrote:
God-Prank wrote:
BaldySlaphead wrote:Thank you, massa, yousa Christians so good to us poor, dumb Gibeonites... Yousa more an we deserve. We so grateful.


Didn't know that the Christians ever met a Gibeonite.

The first hit is free, sucka.
I suppose you prefer the cruel slavery of drug addiction?


Yes, you're quite right; it was God himself that cursed the Gibeonites to perpetual slavery. Funny word to use, 'cursed', considering what fun you seem to want us to believe slavery is.

As for drug addiction, I wasn't aware the choice was so binary. I choose neither, thanks.


How would you like to see ISIS cursed into perpetual slavery?
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Re: Here's an interesting perpective: leaving Islam

Postby BaldySlaphead » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:12 pm

I'd settle for your keyboard breaking but sadly wish fulfilment is unlikely to work for either of us.
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