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Discovery Institute vs. The Clergy Letter Project

Postby lehman scott » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:47 pm

I just love how The Sensuous Curmudgeon dissects the idiot cdesign proponentsists...

Klinghoffer & The Clergy Letter Project

He’s back! Yes, it’s our old friend, David Klinghoffer, whose significant work we last described here. He holds the exalted title of “senior fellow” (i.e., flaming, full-blown creationist), bestowed upon him by the neo-theocrats at the Discovery Institute‘s creationist public relations and lobbying operation, the Center for Science and Culture (a/k/a the Discoveroids, a/k/a the cdesign proponentsists).

His latest post at the Discoveroids’ blog is Clueless at the Clergy Letter Project. That’s right, dear reader, Klinghoffer is attacking The Clergy Letter Project, a strong, pro-evolution statement signed by over 12,000 Christian clergymen. Here’s the Wikipedia article on it: Clergy Letter Project. The Project is exceedingly troublesome for creationists because it flatly contradicts their claim that one can’t be a good Christian and also accept evolution.

When we say the Clergy Letter is a strong statement, we’re not exaggerating. Part of it says:

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.


As we discuss Klinghoffer’s article, it’s important to keep in mind what he doesn’t say. He doesn’t challenge the fundamental concept of the Clergy Letter. Nor does he embarrass himself by contrasting it with the Discoveroids’ tragically pathetic attempt to compile a competing list — A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism. Here’s the Wikipedia article about it.

The Discoveroids rarely announce the total signatories on the woeful list of evolution skeptics who have signed their feeble statement, but they sometimes mention that it’s “more than 850.” They don’t mention that very few of them are biologists. But they’ve got a lot of dentists, sociologists, proctologists, and maybe even chiropractors, so it’s an all-round list of people who are essentially irrelevant to the point at issue. Further, when compared to the Clergy Letter, the Discoveroids’ dissenters sign an incredibly vacuous statement, which meekly declares:

We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.


Even Klinghoffer knows that’s hopeless, both in numbers and in substance, so he doesn’t mention it (your Curmudgeon does, however). Instead, precisely because he has nothing on his side, Klinghoffer nitpicks about trivia, and ends up looking a bit foolish.


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Re: Discovery Institute vs. The Clergy Letter Project

Postby lehman scott » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:21 pm

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Re: Discovery Institute vs. The Clergy Letter Project

Postby Whateverman » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:23 pm

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.


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